CUSHINGS-PETS Digest 38
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Blood in Stools
by Tom White <trw@virginia.edu>
2) Re: CUSHINGS-PETS digest 37
by <loiskos@ix.netcom.com>
3) Congrats and Welcome
by Liza Klosterman <gatorpoo@mediaone.net>
4) New to list
by "Scottee Meade" <scottee@huskynet.com>
5) Welcome Scottee & Halley
by "Rosemary G. Blascetta" <rblascet@pacbell.net>
6) Re: Welcome Scottee & Halley
by Linda Wroth <lwroth@ix.netcom.com>
7) Re: New to list
by "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
8) Re: New to list
by "Capa97" <Capa97@ix.netcom.com>
9) Re: New to list
by "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
10) Re: New to list
by Jenny Kellstedt <jk@bradley.bradley.edu>
11) Re: New to list
by Jeri <kurvenal@ameritech.net>
12) Re: CUSHINGS-PETS digest 37
by Toni Lantto <tlantto@freeway.net>
13) Moderator shirks duties yet again....
by Leslie Lawson <lolawson@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
14) I need help
by Miner <marcia@nortexinfo.net>
15) Re: I need help
by Danestuff@aol.com
16) Doggie Joke
by Glimpact@aol.com
17) Re: I need help
by Susan Kuchinskas <hautlynx@sirius.com>
18) Re: I need help
by DFRS2@aol.com
19) Re: I need help
by scott <scott@adams.net>
20) Re: I need help
by DFRS2@aol.com
21) Rosie, the slip and slide cushinoid
by Linda Wroth <lwroth@ix.netcom.com>
22) I need help, too
by Ras2687@aol.com
23) Need more advice
by Miner <marcia@nortexinfo.net>
24) Re: Need more advice
by Danestuff@aol.com
25) Our Samoyed
by alcck@mail.enter.net
26) Re: I need help
by "Capa97" <Capa97@ix.netcom.com>
27) BUBBA AND ME
by Oberaw@aol.com
28) Re: BUBBA AND ME
by Danestuff@aol.com
29) Re: BUBBA AND ME
by "Capa97" <Capa97@ix.netcom.com>
30) Re: I need help
by "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
31) Play well, Bubba
by "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
32) Good News for Boomer
by Liza Klosterman <gatorpoo@mediaone.net>
33) Re: I need help
by "Linda Wargon" <mlwar@npcc.net>
34) Re: BUBBA AND ME
by Susan West <swok34@swbell.net>
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:40:17 +0000
From: Tom White <trw@virginia.edu>
To: rblascet@pacbell.net, cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: Blood in Stools
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Rosemary,
Thank you so much for your response to our note. We really appreciate
it,
and will watch for William Persky's posting.
Hugs to MacTavish (a great name for a Scottie!) and hope he is doing
well.
Tom, Maria and Clea, Timmy and Little Rosti
trw@virginia.edu
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 98 19:39:00 -0400
From: <loiskos@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Cushing's Disease" <cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: CUSHINGS-PETS digest 37
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>I have a Duffy too! He is a 9 year ol black and tan dachshund. My
Penny is
>the one in our house with Cushing's. She is on anipryl and has been
on it
>since last September. She just passed her 1 year anniversary of her
>diagnosis in March and has had her ups and downs too. She was on lysodren
>to start out with but was sensitive to it and had to start out at half
dose
>and work up to the full dose.
DUFFY is a very good name! Hope your PENNY hangs in there.
Duffy just had a thyroid test -- normal -- and is getting swabbed with
mitoban for his demodex mites, one of those everyday bugs that doesn't
bother a dog until his immune system breaks down. Phooey!
Had a special Duffy moment Friday night: Duff's never been the cuddly
kind, but that night he moved from his end of the couch to lie against my
side -- just for 20 or so wonderful minutes. Just shows how "out of
it"
he is sometimes, but I certainly enjoyed the cuddle!
LOIS -- and DUFFY
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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 12:52:05 -0400
From: Liza Klosterman <gatorpoo@mediaone.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Congrats and Welcome
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Hi All,
I've been away on business and vacation for the last week, and I'm now
trying
to catch up on the list. Welcome to any newcomers, glad ya'll found the
list,
but I'm sorry you have to be here.
Congratulations to all who had good news to report: Annie, Sunny, Terrible
Ted,
Jesse, Mollie Bear (and anyone eslse I may have forgotten). And a special
welcome to Dillon's new edition, Toby.
Jackie, thanks for the "Living Love". I should have taken your
advice and
grabbed some tissue before I read it. Instead I just let the tears run
down my
face as I read it!
Boomer is at the vet getting another ACTH Stim test done. He seems to
be
doing ok on maintenance phase (125 mg Lysodren on Monday and 1.25 mg prednisone
three times a week), but he still seems hungry all the time. He isn't wolfing
down his food like he use to and although he drinks frequently, he doesn't
drink
as much at any one time. I was reading the posts about measuring water
intake
and wish I could measure his. With a multiple dog household I don't know
how I
could do it unless I isolated Boomer from the girls during the day. They
all
stay together in a pen during the day. I'm just hoping his test results
are
good.
We also saw a dermatologist today. Although she feels that his skin
and coat
problems are a result of the Cushings and that it is too early to expect
to see
new hair growth, she is going to do a few skin tests to make sure we aren't
dealing with a secondary skin infection, fungus or mites. How long should
it be
before new hair starts to grow?
Well, I'm glad to be home and my furbabies are glad I'm back. I didn't
think
they would ever calm down when I came in last night. It was such a joyous
reunion!
-- Liza and Boomer
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:55:03 -0000
From: "Scottee Meade" <scottee@huskynet.com>
To: <cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: New to list
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I just discovered this list, and I'm glad I did. I have 6 Boston terriers
and 1 cat, and my oldest Boston, Halley, was diagnosed with Cushings 12
months ago. She is now 12-1/2 years old, which is a pretty good age for
a
Boston.
At the advice of one of our local conventional vets who has a lot of
experience with Cushings but is not a specialist, I pursued alternative
therapy with a holistic specialist, whose client I have been for many years
for other problems. Halley has been treated with Chinese Herbal medicine
and at this point we seem to have the thirst and hunger down to a
manageable level, and the hyperkeratosis completely under control. I keep
looking for hair regrowth, although she hasn't lost a huge amount. I think
we are going to add another complementary Chinese herbal combination to
the
one she is on now, which I hope will completely control her symptoms. I
am
very pleased with how she is doing now, and have stopped the eternal watch
for signs of further illness.
We do keep close tabs on her heart rate and blood levels.
Perhaps the best thing to come out of this misfortune so far has been
a
career change for me. I was in picking up Halley's Chinese Herbs one
evening last September and the vet told me his receptionist had quit. I
had wanted to work for him for years, so I faxed my application the next
morning, and was working for him part-time a couple of weeks later. In
February he hired me full-time. Of course, I now get the Chinese Herbs
at
a good discount, and consultations whenever needed. This vet is part of
a
specialty group practice, so I also have access to internal medicine and
cardiology specialists, among other experts. What a blessing that has
been!
I look forward to learning and sharing and getting to know my fellow
listmembers.
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Scottee Meade <Scottee@huskynet.com> 'Tee Party Bostons
Canine Behavior Consultant Burke, VA
Member, Association of Pet Dog Trainers and Old Dominion Kennel Club
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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:56:01 -0700
From: "Rosemary G. Blascetta" <rblascet@pacbell.net>
To: CUSHINGS-PETS <CUSHINGS-PETS@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Welcome Scottee & Halley
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Welcome to the group Scottee and Halley, I am a newcomer myself and just
had to let you know that I am GREEN with envy, 6!!! Boston terriers!!!
What great fun! All that terrier energy!
TTFN Rosemary
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:12:06 -0700
From: Linda Wroth <lwroth@ix.netcom.com>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: Welcome Scottee & Halley
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Welcome Scottee,
I'm interested in hearing more about the Chinese herbal treatment you're
using for Halley's Cushing's. Jeri has written about Kurvenal's
treatment with Chinese medicine, and I like to hear about alternative
treatments for Cushing's.
Linda Wroth Richmond, CA lwroth@ix.netcom.com
Sam, 11-11/12 yr old Akita, diagnosed 3/98 (pituitary), on
750 mg Lysodren weekly, pretty much back to normal
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:39:35 -0500
From: "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: New to list
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Welcome to the list. I hope you find many friends here, as well as helpful
advice and lots of support.
--
dillon pyron
dillon.pyron@amd.com
Hell hath no fury like root.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:28:29 -0400
From: "Capa97" <Capa97@ix.netcom.com>
To: <cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: New to list
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Dillon, In a earlier post youtold about the loading phase for your dog
& I
have a couple questions.Sammy was on Anipyl 5mg for 3 mo. but cushings
got
worse. They changed her to Lysodren last thurs.plus she takes a presdnisone
every day also. She is only 6lb so they cut her pills in to 1/6. My
questions:1. How sick & how fast ,Dr. Paulsaid we would stayon 10 days
or
until she gets sick.2. Whats the difference Load , controlled load,
maintenance load? She has diabetes also that stays high but he hope when
the steroids lower so will sugar. She gets 5unit of insulon & we watch
close so she doesn't go the other way if the cushing gets better. So we
spend a lot of time staring & waiting for a warning. Just hoping to
understand a little more.
Thanks for your time,
Pat & Sammy
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> From: Dillon Pyron <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
> To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: New to list
> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 9:39 AM
>
> Welcome to the list. I hope you find many friends here, as well as
helpful
> advice and lots of support.
>
>
> --
> dillon pyron
> dillon.pyron@amd.com
> Hell hath no fury like root.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:08:22 -0500
From: "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: New to list
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On Jun 10, 1:28pm, Capa97 wrote:
> Subject: Re: New to list
> Dillon, In a earlier post youtold about the loading phase for your
dog & I
> have a couple questions.Sammy was on Anipyl 5mg for 3 mo. but cushings
got
> worse. They changed her to Lysodren last thurs.plus she takes a presdnisone
> every day also. She is only 6lb so they cut her pills in to 1/6. My
> questions:1. How sick & how fast ,Dr. Paulsaid we would stayon
10 days or
> until she gets sick.2. Whats the difference Load , controlled load,
> maintenance load? She has diabetes also that stays high but he hope
when
> the steroids lower so will sugar. She gets 5unit of insulon & we
watch
> close so she doesn't go the other way if the cushing gets better. So
we
> spend a lot of time staring & waiting for a warning. Just hoping
to
> understand a little more.
> Thanks for your time,
> Pat & Sammy
Your mileage may vary, work with your vet on this:
Ivan weighed 50 lbs when we started. His loading phase was 500mg twice
a day
(BID) for about 10 days. That was when he stopped eating and showed little
interest in water. At this point, he was given prednisone and went in a
week
later for his ACTH stim, which showed him slightly Addison's (but to be
expected). His maintenance dose at that point was 500mg three times a week.
About 6 months later, we did a second loading, which was 500mg BID for
7 days,
then an ACTH a week later. At that point, he went to 500mg twice a week
and
250mg three times a week. A year later, anothe ACTH showed some trouble,
so we
again did 500mg for 4 days, then shifted to 500mg four times a week.
--
dillon pyron
dillon.pyron@amd.com
Hell hath no fury like root.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:27:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jenny Kellstedt <jk@bradley.bradley.edu>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: New to list
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Hi Scottee and welcome. May I second the request for more information
re
Chinese herbal treatments. There is no holistic vet in my town so what I
have learned about herbal treatments, and then passed on to/by my local
veterinarian, has come from internet and this list in particular.
My dog Sweetie is a Tibetan Terrier and the breed was literally confined
to the "lost valley of Shangri-La" until the late 1940's. I think
this
background helps account for her allergic reactions to Western phenomena.
Asian remedies could prove quite suitable for her.
Thanks,
Jenny & Sweetie
jk@bradley.bradley.edu
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:14:42 -0500
From: Jeri <kurvenal@ameritech.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Cc: "kurvenal@ameritech.net" <kurvenal@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: New to list
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Jenny Kellstedt wrote:
> Hi Scottee and welcome. May I second the request for more information
re
> Chinese herbal treatments. There is no holistic vet in my town so what
I
> have learned about herbal treatments, and then passed on to/by my local
> veterinarian, has come from internet and this list in particular.
It might be worth your while to make at least one visit to a vet who
is familiar with Chinese herbs, if this is a route that you'd like to
take. In Chinese medicine, there is no standard formula for treating
any disease--it all depends on where a particular individual has
imbalances in their body. To use the example of acupuncture and
seizures, I know of several dogs with seizures who have all made
the trip to the same vet for gold bead implants, a permanent form
of acupuncture. Not only has the number of gold bead implanted
varied from dog to dog, (and quite drastically), but also the
locations of the implants have varied. If the vet had used the
same number of implants and the same acupuncture points for each
dog, he'd have a low success rate--it might work for some dogs,
it might a bit for some others, and would fail to work for many,
who could have been helped if they had received treatment
tailored to their individual needs. (Some of the people traveled
for a few days one-way to get to this vet, so you might
be able to travel at least to another town. I assume that
you're in Peoria--so you could get to Chicago and back
in a (long) day--tired, no doubt....)
Chinese herbs work in the same sort of way as acupuncture--they
also have the function of balancing the body by treating
energy blockages, by treating conditions like heat, excess,
cold, deficiency, etc. Your own dog's pattern of imbalance
needs to be diagnosed and treated accordingly. There are 12
major meridians and 8 extra meridians through which the Qi
(energy) circulates. To provide the best possible treatment
for your dog, through herbs and/or acupuncture, you need
to find someone who can diagnose which of those meridians
need to be treated for your dog, and in what manner.
There are 37 actions or functions for herbs, (things like
warming, clearing, reducing, tonifying, etc.), and it
takes someone very knowledgeable in the use of Chinese
herbs to know which of these functions should be used,
in what combination, (Chinese herbs are almost always
used in combination with other herbs), and to treat
which meridians....
You might try this web site to find someone within
a reasonable drive for you--it lists people who are
practioners of alternative veterinary medicine:
http://www.altvetmed.com/toc.html
Chinese herbs are not without side effects, (though
generally quite safe if used properly), and an
imbalance can be made worse if treated improperly.
It's an approach that is working well for my dogs,
but the herbs that my dogs take might not be the
right herbs for your dog.
Jeri
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:42:26 +0100
From: Toni Lantto <tlantto@freeway.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
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I found that Penny has been more touchy cuddly since her illness when
she was put on anipryl.
My Duffy is my boy and I haven't been home too much lately so he is not
far from my sight/ I should say I am not far from his sight.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:20:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Leslie Lawson <lolawson@uts.cc.utexas.edu>
To: stuart-alumni@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu, cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Moderator shirks duties yet again....
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Stuart-alumni and Cushings-pets folks:
I'm off to Washington, DC for a couple of days so you'll again be treated
to the guest-hosting of the lovely and talented Scot. Y'all were so nice
to him last time that he gracious agreed to return to the task.
Talk to you again when I return--or at the picnic with yearbook in hand,
you Stuart alumni!
-Leslie
JEB Stuart High School Alumni Listserv Manager and
Cushing's Pets Electronic Forum and Web Pages Facilitator
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:54:37 -0500
From: Miner <marcia@nortexinfo.net>
To: CUSHINGS-PETS@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: I need help
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Hello, Everybody, My Brittany has Custings. The vet has her on ANIPRYL
15 mg. She has been taking them for 37 days. In the last 4-5 days she
has started to increase her water and pant more. These are the only
signs that she has. Her blood tests were border line.
I called the vet this AM and he said to wait till I have finished the
medication. He then hinted that if this medication was not working,
that there wasn't much more to do for her.
SHe has been allegic to pregnazone for years, that happened AFTER she
was spayed at about 7 years old.
I would be most greatful to any help I can get. I do NOT give up easily
and I just lost a dog 2 days ago to congested heart failure. So I am
not in the mood to throw in the towel. All of her tests on her heart,
liver, kidneys etc were very strong.
I am new to this group and I would love some help or advice from
anybody. Is my vet following the suggested guidelines???
Thank you
Marcia Miner and Springer
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:04:25 EDT
From: Danestuff@aol.com
To: marcia@nortexinfo.net, cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: I need help
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In a message dated 6/12/1998 12:58:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
marcia@nortexinfo.net writes:
<< Hello, Everybody, My Brittany has Custings. The vet has her
on ANIPRYL
15 mg. ....
I called the vet this AM and he said to wait till I have finished the
medication. He then hinted that if this medication was not working,
that there wasn't much more to do for her.
>>
Marcia,
I have to defer to others with great medication-related knowledge
for your question, but I just wanted to take a moment to tell you
that you will find some wonderful support on this list.
Also, my heart aches for you, having just lost a dog and now
having to deal with Cushings.
I have no experience with anipryl; my Jessie takes Lysodren
and is doing very well. But this is a manageable disease, and
don't accept "nothing more we can do" from your vet.
Warm thoughts and good wishes,
Jackie Lynn
Winter Park, FL
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:14:37 EDT
From: Glimpact@aol.com
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Doggie Joke
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Subject: Dogs
>>>The Americans and Russians at the height of the arms race
realized that if
>>>they continued in the usual manner they were going to blow up
the whole
>>>world.
>>>
>>>One day they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute
with one dog
>>>fight. They'd have five years to breed the best fighting dog
in the world
>>>and which ever side's dog won would be entitled to dominate
the world.
The >>>losing side would have to lay down its arms.
>>>
>>>The Russians found the biggest meanest Doberman and Rottweiler
dogs in the
>>>world and bred them with the biggest meanest Siberian wolves.
>>>
>>>They selected only the biggest and strongest puppy from each
litter, killed
>>>his siblings, and gave him all the milk. They used steroids
and trainers
>>>and after five years came up with the biggest meanest dog the
world had
>>>ever seen.
>>>
>>>Its cage needed steel bars that were five inches thick and nobody
could get
>>>near it. When the day came for the dog fight, the Americans
showed up
with >>>a strange animal. It was a nine foot long Dachshund.
>>>
>>>Everyone felt sorry for the Americans because they knew there
was no way
>>>that this dog could possibly last ten seconds with the Russian
dog.
>>>
>>>When the cages were opened up, the Dachshund came out of it's
cage and
>>>slowly waddled over towards the Russian dog. The Russian dog
snarled and
>>>leaped out of it's cage and charged the American Dachshund.
>>>
>>>But, when it got close enough to bite the Dachshund's neck,
the Dachshund
>>>opened it's mouth and consumed the Russian dog in one bite.
There was
>>>nothing left of the Russian dog but a stray bit of fur..
>>>
>>>The Russians came up to the Americans shaking their heads in
disbelief.
>>>"'We don't understand how this could have happened. We
had our best people
>>>working for five years with the meanest Doberman and Rottweiler
dogs in the
>>>world and the biggest meanest Siberian wolves."
>>>
>>>"That's nothing", an American replied. "We had
our best plastic surgeons
>>>working for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund.
>>>
>>>========================================================================
=
>>>
>>>Bull Terrier x Shitzu = Bullshitz, a gregarious but unreliable
breed.
>>>
>>>Pointer x Setter = Poinsetter, a traditional Christmas pet
>>>
>>>Kerry Blue Terrier x Skye Terrier = Blue Skye, a dog for visionaries.
>>>
>>>Great Pyrenees x Dachshund = Pyradachs, a puzzling breed.
>>>
>>>Pekingnese x Lhasa Apso = Peekasso, an abstract dog.
>>>
>>>Irish Water Spaniel x English Springer Spaniel = Irish Springer,
a dog
>>>fresh and clean as a whistle.
>>>
>>>Labrador Retriever x Curly Coated Retriever = Lab Coat Retriever,
the
>>>choice of research scientists.
>>>
>>>Newfoundland x Basset Hound = Newfound Asset Hound, a dog for
financial
>>>advisors.
>>>
>>>Terrier x Bulldog = Terribull, a dog that makes awful mistakes.
>>>
>>>Bloodhound x Labrador = Blabador, a dog that barks incessantly.
>>>
>>>Malamute x Pointer = Moot Point, favorites of lawyers but ...
it doesn't
>>>seem to matter.
>>>
>>>Collie x Malamute = Commute, a dog that travels to work.
>>>
>>>Deerhound x Terrier = Derriere, a dog that's true to the end.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:24:30 -0700
From: Susan Kuchinskas <hautlynx@sirius.com>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: I need help
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Hello, Marcia. I also don't feel qualified to give much medical advice,
but
there is PLENTY you can do. There is lysodren, a human cancer med, which
works for some dogs when Anipryl won't. There's another drug, too, that
is
not used much but vets should know about. Also some people have had luck
with alternative wholistic therapies incl. acupuncture and herbal
treatments. I hope you've read the archive by now? It's at the cushings
website. (um, not sure of the address).
You are nowhere near the towel-throwing stage, don't worry!
Susan
At 01:04 PM 6/12/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 6/12/1998 12:58:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>marcia@nortexinfo.net writes:
>
><< Hello, Everybody, My Brittany has Custings. The vet has her
on ANIPRYL
> 15 mg. ....
> I called the vet this AM and he said to wait till I have finished the
> medication. He then hinted that if this medication was not working,
> that there wasn't much more to do for her.
> >>
>
>Marcia,
>
>I have to defer to others with great medication-related knowledge
>for your question, but I just wanted to take a moment to tell you
>that you will find some wonderful support on this list.
>
>Also, my heart aches for you, having just lost a dog and now
>having to deal with Cushings.
>
>I have no experience with anipryl; my Jessie takes Lysodren
>and is doing very well. But this is a manageable disease, and
>don't accept "nothing more we can do" from your vet.
>
>Warm thoughts and good wishes,
>
>Jackie Lynn
>Winter Park, FL
>
>
Susan Kuchinskas
http://www.sirius.com/~hautlynx/
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 16:26:08 EDT
From: DFRS2@aol.com
To: CUSHINGS-PETS@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: I need help
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Marcie and Springer:
Welcome to the Cushing's PETS! I have a yellow lab, Rosie, who is now
12 that
was diagnosed in March '98 with Cushing's. She too started out on Anipryl
30
mgs per day and after 30 days was changed to Lysodren. Anipryl took care
of
some of her symptoms however, after two weeks she had to be put on insulin
for
diabetes so after 30 days, my vet switched her to Lysodren hoping it would
help control her blood glucose. This is a side affect of Cushing's in its
advanced stages I believe....
Anyway, Rosie has not experienced any bad side affects with Lysodren
and she
is now on a maintenance dose of 375 mg twice a week. For Rosie, panting
as
well as shedding is a sign that her Cushing's is not under control and she
has
started that again. Her blood glucose spikes from time to time and it takes
a
week or so to get that under control again. I don't see that ever being
a
constant.
You said Springer was 7 years old when you found out about the allergy
to
prednisone, but didn't say how old Springer is now? Hang in there! Cushing's
is not that difficult to deal with it just seems scary at first. This is
a
great group of caring individuals and you should get a lot of support.
Again,
welcome to the group.
Judy and Rosie (the fur machine)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:27:36 -0500
From: scott <scott@adams.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: I need help
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You mentioned that a sign of rosie's cushings not being under control
was panting
and shedding... My lab jake is also panting & shedding, however his
water intake
is normal & and his appatitie is normal or even slihtly depressed. both
a sign of
sufficiant lysodryn pressence. It is now summer and i can not help but
wonder if
panting is not normal for an old dog on warm days.. btw this is the normal
time of
year for a lab to shed is it not??? Gosh this cushings is a bear to deal
with..
nothing is ever clear.
DFRS2@aol.com wrote:
> Marcie and Springer:
>
> Welcome to the Cushing's PETS! I have a yellow lab, Rosie, who is
now 12 that
> was diagnosed in March '98 with Cushing's. She too started out on
Anipryl 30
> mgs per day and after 30 days was changed to Lysodren. Anipryl took
care of
> some of her symptoms however, after two weeks she had to be put on
insulin for
> diabetes so after 30 days, my vet switched her to Lysodren hoping it
would
> help control her blood glucose. This is a side affect of Cushing's
in its
> advanced stages I believe....
>
> Anyway, Rosie has not experienced any bad side affects with Lysodren
and she
> is now on a maintenance dose of 375 mg twice a week. For Rosie, panting
as
> well as shedding is a sign that her Cushing's is not under control
and she has
> started that again. Her blood glucose spikes from time to time and
it takes a
> week or so to get that under control again. I don't see that ever
being a
> constant.
>
> You said Springer was 7 years old when you found out about the allergy
to
> prednisone, but didn't say how old Springer is now? Hang in there!
Cushing's
> is not that difficult to deal with it just seems scary at first. This
is a
> great group of caring individuals and you should get a lot of support.
Again,
> welcome to the group.
>
> Judy and Rosie (the fur machine)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:36:53 EDT
From: DFRS2@aol.com
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: I need help
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You all know so well that sometimes only as a mother or father to our
furbabies do we notice even the slightest changes when others cannot see
them.
Rosie's coat deteriorated so slowly over time prior to her diagnosis that
I
didn't notice the change. But improved so rapidly while she was on Anipryl,
it made me realize how bad it had gotten. Since Spring came to Dallas early,
Rosie has already gone through what one might call normal shedding. She
stays
indoors all day because the heat seemed to make it impossible to regulate
her
insulin. Also, the quality of her coat has diminished. On Rosie's neck
where
the vet shaved her to draw blood the hair has not grown back.
As far as panting, that has seemed to subside somewhat, but from time
to time
I catch myself asking her to relax and sush.
Due to the cost of treatment and ACTH stim tests, we are at a crossroads
financially. We cannot afford another test right now and I feel that she
needs one. Tonight, I spoke with my vet about concerns regarding hindleg
weakness. He has agreed to have me increase her Lysodren by 125mg per week
(750mg to 875mg) to see if the hindleg weakness improves as well as the
blood
glucose. Even when her blood glucose was regulated the hindleg weakness
was
still present. So we believe that if the Cushing's is not in check, it
causes the hindleg weakness due to too much cortisone in her system. Bless
her heart, she walks so gingerly and still has to catch herself sometimes
before she falls, and on our linoleum floors sometimes she just slides.
It is still a puzzle after 4 months, but we are still hanging in there.
Sorry
so long tonight......guess I am feeling a little frustrated.
Judy and Rosie (the slip and slide cushinoid)
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 02:43:45 -0700
From: Linda Wroth <lwroth@ix.netcom.com>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Rosie, the slip and slide cushinoid
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Can't remember if I posted this before, but I found a great product for
our slip and slide cushinoids when they're on surfaces like linoleum --
Rubbermaid's shelf and drawer liner, a sticky, rubbery,
herringbone-tweed-like textured roll, 5'x18", different colors. It's
very light and washable. When Sam was less stable, I threw it down on
the kitchen floor to help her get outside and then folded it up and put
it away. Great stuff, inexpensive too.
Linda Wroth Richmond, CA lwroth@ix.netcom.com
Sam, 11-11/12 yr old Akita, diagnosed (pituitary) 3/98, on
750 mg Lysodren weekly
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:49:52 EDT
From: Ras2687@aol.com
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: I need help, too
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Listmembers, I have been lurking on the list for awhile and now I have
a
situation where I could use some opinions. My sixteen year old dachshund
(that
is also paralyzed and in a K-9 cart) began to show symptoms of Cushings
(increased appetite, thirst, etc). His lab work is good except for low thyroid
and an increased alkaline phosphatase. Over a year ago he has an ACTH stim.
test that did not show Cushings, but his lab work in April show an increase
in
the Al. Phos. to over 1100.
Because of his age, our vet did not want to do any challenging type tests
and
prescribed Anipryl at a very low dose (2mg per day- he weighs about 13 1/2
lbs). He seemed to be doing well until two weeks ago, he had two grand mal
seizures. His blood work then showed nothing to cause it and we took him
off
the Anipryl and started him on Phenobarbital. He has not had any more
seizures, but his hunger and thirst have increased a lot. He begs for food
constantly! Since we are afraid to test, don't think he can stand Lysodren
anyway, and we fear the Anipryl may have caused the seizure, we don't know
where to go at this point. Our vet's fear is that he has a pituitary tumor
causing the Cushing's and the seizures. We just don't know what to do for
him
right now. Should we try more tests? Feed him more for as long as he lasts?
Start back on the Anipryl even without a true diagnosis? Because of his
age, I
think our vet just doesn't think he has a lot longer anyway, but we want
him
to be a comfortable as possible. This is the second dachshund I have lost
to
Cushing's. Any of your experiences and advise would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Linda Shier (RAS2687@aol.com)
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:12:39 -0500
From: Miner <marcia@nortexinfo.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Need more advice
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Hello everybody, I need more advice please. Springer my Brittany is
really drinking TONS of water. It has been getting worst for 7 days
now. I spoke to the vet yesterday and he wants her to finish the anyplr
15 mg. Springer has taken 38 pills(out of 60). She was doing OK. My
vet said that she will go up and down with this. SIGH!.
You are right, I don't have much faith in this guy anymore. He started
his vacation today and that was all he could think of yesterday.
What do you say??
Do I need a different VET?
Change medication?
How much water should she get in a hour? She weighs 35 lbs BEFORE the
water intake. She is peeing EVERYWHERE, it is to HOT for her to go
outside. Her skin seems slow when I checked for Dehedration. We are in
North Texas between Okla Line and Dallas.
Should I just let her guzzle water.. She is also panting.
Thanks for all your help!!!
Marcia Miner and Springer
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:20:25 EDT
From: Danestuff@aol.com
To: marcia@nortexinfo.net, cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: Need more advice
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Marcia,
I don't feel confident offering any medical advice or opinions --
as I've posted before, my Cushings girl is doing very well, and
I haven't had these troubles.
What I will say is this: if you have any doubts at all about the
competence of your vet, you need to find another one right away.
I hope someone on the list can provide a knowledgeable
referral in your area, but if not, call around first thing Monday
morning and get Springer into see someone else as soon as
possible.
In the meantime, I'll be praying for you both.
Jackie
In a message dated 6/13/1998 7:13:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
marcia@nortexinfo.net writes:
<< Hello everybody, I need more advice please. Springer my Brittany
is
really drinking TONS of water. It has been getting worst for 7 days
now. I spoke to the vet yesterday and he wants her to finish the anyplr
15 mg. Springer has taken 38 pills(out of 60). She was doing OK. My
vet said that she will go up and down with this. SIGH!.
You are right, I don't have much faith in this guy anymore. He started
his vacation today and that was all he could think of yesterday.
What do you say??
Do I need a different VET?
Change medication?
How much water should she get in a hour? She weighs 35 lbs BEFORE the
water intake. She is peeing EVERYWHERE, it is to HOT for her to go
outside. Her skin seems slow when I checked for Dehedration. We are in
North Texas between Okla Line and Dallas.
Should I just let her guzzle water.. She is also panting.
Thanks for all your help!!!
Marcia Miner and Springer
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:11:35 4
From: alcck@mail.enter.net
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Our Samoyed
Message-ID: <199806140308.XAA25408@mail.enter.net>
Hi all,
We have joined this group as of yesterday, after receiving test
results for our 4 year old Samoyed, Casey. I performed some searches
for Cushings and found this site, and was immediately impressed with
the amount of information about the disease which is available.
It also is very emotional reading through the postings, sensing the
pain, the joy, the urgency, the support,,,,,
Anyway, our story, 9 months ago, we noticed some behavior problems
with Casey, who took a few snaps at our two kids, yes totally out of
character for him. He also had put on some weight over that same time
period and was quite lethargic. We ending up getting some blood work
(not the acth test) done, and the vet placed him on medication for
hypothyrodism and told us that he did not have cushing. The behavior
problem persisted and we ending up putting him on amytriptiline(?).
We were again told that he did not have Cushing, so we went with the
flow for a few months. His drinking seemed to increase, and my wife's
intuition persisted to the point that we got a second opinion. The
second opinion, included the ACTH sim test, with the results
indicating that Casey has cushing.
Sooo, we are at the beginning of this process, and God willing, hope
to be
part of this group for a long time.
Craig & Donna & Ashley & Nathan & Casey
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:41:49 -0400
From: "Capa97" <Capa97@ix.netcom.com>
To: <cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: I need help
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Susan , My Sammy was on Anipryl since March when they found her to have
cushings & diabetes. She just had her test & everything is worst
on the
tests. Dr Paul has put her on Lyodren & predicone to help with side
effects
of lysodren. She on 10 days then we wait a week and test. THe class they
went to 2 weeks ago, this was the treatment they showed. I think he may
be
learning this disease as i am, but has taken great interest & given
us lots
of hope . Don't give up!
Pat & SAmmy
----------
> From: Susan Kuchinskas <hautlynx@sirius.com>
> To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
> Subject: Re: I need help
> Date: Friday, June 12, 1998 2:24 PM
>
> Hello, Marcia. I also don't feel qualified to give much medical advice,
but
> there is PLENTY you can do. There is lysodren, a human cancer med,
which
> works for some dogs when Anipryl won't. There's another drug, too,
that
is
> not used much but vets should know about. Also some people have had
luck
> with alternative wholistic therapies incl. acupuncture and herbal
> treatments. I hope you've read the archive by now? It's at the cushings
> website. (um, not sure of the address).
>
> You are nowhere near the towel-throwing stage, don't worry!
> Susan
> At 01:04 PM 6/12/98 EDT, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 6/12/1998 12:58:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >marcia@nortexinfo.net writes:
> >
> ><< Hello, Everybody, My Brittany has Custings. The vet has
her on
ANIPRYL
> > 15 mg. ....
> > I called the vet this AM and he said to wait till I have finished
the
> > medication. He then hinted that if this medication was not working,
> > that there wasn't much more to do for her.
> > >>
> >
> >Marcia,
> >
> >I have to defer to others with great medication-related knowledge
> >for your question, but I just wanted to take a moment to tell you
> >that you will find some wonderful support on this list.
> >
> >Also, my heart aches for you, having just lost a dog and now
> >having to deal with Cushings.
> >
> >I have no experience with anipryl; my Jessie takes Lysodren
> >and is doing very well. But this is a manageable disease, and
> >don't accept "nothing more we can do" from your vet.
> >
> >Warm thoughts and good wishes,
> >
> >Jackie Lynn
> >Winter Park, FL
> >
> >
>
> Susan Kuchinskas
>
> http://www.sirius.com/~hautlynx/
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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:54:11 EDT
From: Oberaw@aol.com
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: BUBBA AND ME
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I have lost my best friend, my pal, my buddy and my shadow
all of which was Bubba an 8 year 10 month Golden Retriever.
While I realize Bubba is now in Heaven I am selfishly devastated
tearing as I write this, and pretending to remain a composed
62 year old MAN.
During our relatively short period of time since I was told of the
seriousness of this condition, cushings was diagnosed, etc.
I spent over $1200 and listened to everyword of the vets (two
on them) (and my fault)before I learned how stupid these vets
were in handling or mishandling "my boy".
I now have 6 Baytrill 68 mg
27 Lysoldren 500 mg
12 Presdnisone 10 mg
31 Bethanechol 10mg
Hopefully, to help another little friend, pal, buddy, and/or
shadow, these pills are available FREE to anyone who will
e-mail me direct at oberaw@aol.com
Thank you very much, and God Bless.
PLEASE REMOVE BUBBA AND ME FROM YOUR MAILING
LIST.
LARRY (Bubba and Me)
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:16:56 EDT
From: Danestuff@aol.com
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Cc: Oberaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: BUBBA AND ME
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In a message dated 6/13/1998 11:56:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Oberaw@aol.com
writes:
<< I have lost my best friend, my pal, my buddy and my shadow
all of which was Bubba an 8 year 10 month Golden Retriever. >>
Larry, please accept my deepest sympathies. But don't try to hold
your feelings in -- being a man doesn't mean you can't hurt like hell
over the loss of your close friend.
Bubba's waiting for you at the Rainbow Bridge. In the meantime,
perhaps the following essay will be of some comfort. I'll keep
you in my prayers.
Jackie
~~~~~~~
A LIVING LOVE
If you ever love an animal, there are three days in your life you will
always remember . . .
The first is a day, blessed with happiness, when you bring home your
young new friend. You may have spent weeks deciding on a breed. You may
have asked numerous opinions of many vets, or done long research in finding
a breeder. Or, perhaps in a fleeting moment, you may have just chosen
that silly looking mutt in a shelter -- simply because something in its
eyes reached your heart. But when you bring that chosen pet home, and
watch it explore, and claim its special place in your hall or front room
-- and when you feel it brush against you for the first time -- it
instills a feeling of pure love you will carry with you through the many
years to come.
The second day will occur eight or nine or ten years later. It will
be a
day like any other. Routine and unexceptional. But, for a surprising
instant, you will look at your longtime friend and see age where you
once saw youth. You will see slow deliberate steps where you once saw
energy. And you will see sleep when you once saw activity. So you will
begin to adjust your friend's diet -- and you may add a pill or two to
her food. And you may feel a growing fear deep within yourself, which
bodes of a coming emptiness. And you will feel this uneasy feeling, on
and off, until the third day finally arrives.
And on this day -- if your friend and whatever higher being you believe
in have not decided for you, then you will be faced with making a
decision of your own -- on behalf of your lifelong friend, and with the
guidance of your own deepest Spirit. But whichever way your friend
eventually leaves you -- you will feel as alone as a single star in the
dark night.
If you are wise, you will let the tears flow as freely and as often
as
they must. And if you are typical, you will find that not many in your
circle of family or friends will be able to understand your grief, or
comfort you.
But if you are true to the love of the pet you cherished through the
many joy-filled years, you may find that a soul -- a bit smaller in size
than your own -- seems to walk with you, at times, during the lonely
days to come.
And at moments when you least expect anything out of the ordinary to
happen, you may feel something brush against your leg -- very, very
lightly.
And looking down at the place where your dear, perhaps dearest, friend
used to lie -- you will remember those three significant days. The
memory will most likely to be painful, and leave an ache in your heart.
As time passes the ache will come and go as if it has a life of its own.
You will both reject it and it, and it may confuse you. If you reject
it,
it will depress you. If you embrace it, it will deepen you. Either way,
it will still be an ache.
But there will be, I assure you, a fourth day when -- along with the
memory of your pet -- and piercing through the heaviness in your heart
-- there will come a realization that belongs only to you. It will be
as unique and strong as our relationship with each animal we have
loved, and lost. This realization takes the form of a Living Love --
like the heavenly scent of a rose that remains after
the petals have wilted, this Love will remain and grow -- and be there
for us to remember. It is a love we have earned. It is the legacy our
pets leave us when they go. And it is a gift we may keep with us as long
as we live. It is a Love which is ours alone. And until we ourselves
leave, perhaps to join our Beloved Pets -- it is a Love we will always
possess.
(by Martin Scot Kosins)
--
"The great pleasure of a dog is that you make a fool of yourself
with
her and not only will she not scold you, she will make a fool of herself
too." - Samuel Butler
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:27:55 -0400
From: "Capa97" <Capa97@ix.netcom.com>
To: <cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: BUBBA AND ME
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Prayers for you & Bubba
Pat & Sammy
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> From: Oberaw@aol.com
> To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
> Subject: BUBBA AND ME
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 1998 11:54 PM
>
> I have lost my best friend, my pal, my buddy and my shadow
> all of which was Bubba an 8 year 10 month Golden Retriever.
>
> While I realize Bubba is now in Heaven I am selfishly devastated
> tearing as I write this, and pretending to remain a composed
> 62 year old MAN.
>
> During our relatively short period of time since I was told of the
> seriousness of this condition, cushings was diagnosed, etc.
> I spent over $1200 and listened to everyword of the vets (two
> on them) (and my fault)before I learned how stupid these vets
> were in handling or mishandling "my boy".
>
> I now have 6 Baytrill 68 mg
> 27 Lysoldren 500 mg
> 12 Presdnisone 10 mg
> 31 Bethanechol 10mg
>
> Hopefully, to help another little friend, pal, buddy, and/or
> shadow, these pills are available FREE to anyone who will
> e-mail me direct at oberaw@aol.com
>
> Thank you very much, and God Bless.
>
> PLEASE REMOVE BUBBA AND ME FROM YOUR MAILING
> LIST.
>
> LARRY (Bubba and Me)
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 11:22:30 -0500
From: "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: I need help
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Ivan's panting, and his desire for the cool tile, always increased in
the
summer (and hid the Cushings signs for a while, as a result). As he got
older,
this also increased.
I got to meet Kelso this weekend, and he also seemed to be somewhat of
a
panter. However, it was only 99 yesterday, so I'm sure this little Northern
transplant is suffering a bit from the weather.
I'd guess that, if the other signs are down, the panting is probably
related to
something else. It's never a bad idea, though, to talk to your vet. Panting
is frequently a sign of general distress.
--
dillon pyron
dillon.pyron@amd.com
Hell hath no fury like root.
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:17:02 -0500
From: "Dillon Pyron" <dillon.pyron@amd.com>
To: Oberaw@aol.com
Cc: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Play well, Bubba
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Our hearts go out to you and Bubba. There's nothing I can really say
or do
that will help how you feel. I will miss Ivan and Molly for the rest of
my
life What you say about Bubba says a lot for how much you loved each other.
You are truly a kind and generous person.
--
dillon pyron
dillon.pyron@amd.com
Hell hath no fury like root.
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 14:16:38 -0400
From: Liza Klosterman <gatorpoo@mediaone.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Good News for Boomer
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Hi Everyone,
Boomer's latest ACTH stim test came back with some encouraging
results. His base level was 6.4 and the 2 hour level was 8.7 (normal
for both is between 1 and 5). This is still a little high, but a big
improvement from his initial test results of 4.2 and 52.4! So, we are
increasing his Lysodren to 125mg twice a week and will retest in 2 to 3
months.
Boomer also saw the dermatologist this time and she tested his skin
for bacteria, mites and fungus. She found no abnormal bacteria or
mites, the funal test takes about a month to culture (?). She gave me
Sebolux shampoo to bathe him in once a week for his dry skin. She is
not too concerned at this point that his hair is not regrowing. But
said that if it doesn't show signs of improvement in 4 to 8 weeks, then
maybe a skin biopsy will be in order.
But she did find that he had yeast growing in his ears! His ears
have always produced a LOT of brown wax, but they have never been
infected. Not long ago on the list there was a discussion about
treating yeast infected ears. Here is what my dermatologist recommened
for Boomer:
Go to the drug store and buy Lotrimin solution and put 4-5 drops in each
ear for 2-3 weeks. Lotrimin solution can be found with products for
athletes foot. The bottle says it can be used for athletes foot, jock
itch, and ring worm. It contains the same ingredient the Gyna-Lotrimin
contains! And ya'll probably thought I was crazy for telling you to use
"feminine products" to treat your dog's ears!
In addition, I have to clean his ears twice a week with "Foaming
Antiseptic Ear Cleanser" followed by "antiseptic Ear Flushing
Drying
Lotion", both manufactured by Animal Dermatology Laboratories. This
stuff works really well!
All in all, I am pleased with Boomer's progress and do hope it
continues.
-- Liza and Boomer (My ears are really clean now!!)
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 18:27:47 -0500
From: "Linda Wargon" <mlwar@npcc.net>
To: <cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: I need help
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Hi Dillon.
My Lab C.B. has constant panting and was on Lysodren and her last ACTH test
(end of May) showed she has excellent suppresion, but still the panting.
Her panting was not related to the hot weather. She pants when it is cold
also. My vet just changed her medicine to Anipryl. Today is her third day.
She was on Lysodren for over a year. So hopefully the panting will at least
slow down a bit. My vet is always in contact with Purdue University about
C.B. So I am hoping something good will come out of this. Good luck with
Ivan.
Linda & C. B.
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 21:50:47 -0500
From: Susan West <swok34@swbell.net>
To: cushings-pets@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu
Subject: Re: BUBBA AND ME
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Oberaw@aol.com wrote:
> I have lost my best friend, my pal, my buddy and my shadow
> all of which was Bubba an 8 year 10 month Golden Retriever.
>
> Very sorry to hear about Bubba, may God keep the both of you.
> Thoughts and prayers are with you.
Susan